Essex Police launch crackdown on crashes and crime on the A12

Halstead Gazette: Essex Police launch crackdown on crashes and crime on the A12 Essex Police launch crackdown on crashes and crime on the A12

Road policing officers are stepping up an operation to reduce collisions and casualties on the A12.

Operation Excellence was launched on March 1 in response to concerns about an increase in crashes and delays on the road.

It is hoped that the operation - which is also targeting criminals using the A12 - will reduce problems by curbing speeding, tailgating and other forms of inconsiderate driving.

The operation is likely to continue for a further six months and will include widespread rush hour patrols from Brentwood to the Suffolk border.

Essex Police Casualty Reduction Manager Adam Pipe said: "There are many motorists who need to change their driving behaviour.

"We have received many complaints about aggressive tailgating, undertaking, speeding and using mobile phones at the wheel. These are all factors that contribute to collisions.

"We have also discovered that some drivers are angered by bad or aggressive driving and end up driving badly themselves.

"If we can change the way that people use the A12 we are convinced that we can reduce collisions which in turn means fewer delays.”

Since the launch of Operation Excellence, 422 people have been stopped for speeding - with some speeds being well over 100mph and 100 people have been stopped for using mobile phones while driving.

Some 67 people were stopped for not using seat belts and 46 were seen tailgating or other forms of careless driving.

Five drivers were found to be uninsured, 12 vehicles had invalid MOTs, one driver was arrested for driving while disqualified, another was arrested for dangerous driving and another driver was arrested for drink-driving.

Police involved in the operation have also recovered a stolen caravan and two items of plant machinery that had been stolen.

Mr Pipe added: ”We have been working closely with Essex County Council and the Highways Agency to reduce crashes and delays on the A12 and the results so far have been encouraging.

"However, crashes are still continuing and they have a knock-on effect by causing gridlock in Chelmsford and towns and villages near the A12.

"By asking drivers to be more careful, more considerate and to be more aware of other road users we believe that safety can be increased on the A12.

"Of the 46 cases of careless driving the majority involved tailgating where impatient drivers were aggressively trying to force others out of the way. People who have been stopped for speeding tend to be impatient drivers or those trying to make up lost time caused by delays.

"We are asking offending drivers on the A12 to make a little sacrifice that will reduce crashes and help everyone in the end. We are asking them to slow down, calm down and to respect other road users. We are sure it will make significant improvements to the A12.”

Cllr Rodney Bass, Cabinet Member for Highways and Transportation at Essex County Council, said, "We are very pleased to support this initiative from Essex Police to reduce casualties on the A12. We will continue to work with the Police and the Highways Agency to drive up standards on this strategically vital road.”

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7:16pm Sun 11 May 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

Ha...and story 2 hours later...donkeys on the A12..... someones an **** !
Ha...and story 2 hours later...donkeys on the A12..... someones an **** ! SOMETHING2SAY
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7:28pm Sun 11 May 14

pierre-pierre says...

yes at 2.43 in the morning, and they were rounded up by the police
yes at 2.43 in the morning, and they were rounded up by the police pierre-pierre
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7:54am Mon 12 May 14

Ysttonk says...

I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.
I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard. Ysttonk
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9:44am Mon 12 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

Ysttonk wrote:
I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.
And so should essex police do their job with confidence and support from the public.
I wonder how many people being stopped and have action taken against them are previous offenders or dare one say it, of the 17,000 or so drivers who flouted the high street bus lane issue.
Maybe Mr Brown at the Parking Partnership would like to do a double blind study, to see if there is a consistency in the figures.
As for driving at 50 MPH on the A12 one of my cars is a 900 cc three cylinder vehicle it is perfectly acceptable to be driving at 50 to 55 on the inside lane.
I suggest you sign up to a Roadcraft training course run bu former emergency service driver training officers before you attempt to tout your wares and proficiency in The System Of Car Control.
Quiet Efficiency Is The Hallmark of The Expert.
[quote][p][bold]Ysttonk[/bold] wrote: I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.[/p][/quote]And so should essex police do their job with confidence and support from the public. I wonder how many people being stopped and have action taken against them are previous offenders or dare one say it, of the 17,000 or so drivers who flouted the high street bus lane issue. Maybe Mr Brown at the Parking Partnership would like to do a double blind study, to see if there is a consistency in the figures. As for driving at 50 MPH on the A12 one of my cars is a 900 cc three cylinder vehicle it is perfectly acceptable to be driving at 50 to 55 on the inside lane. I suggest you sign up to a Roadcraft training course run bu former emergency service driver training officers before you attempt to tout your wares and proficiency in The System Of Car Control. Quiet Efficiency Is The Hallmark of The Expert. A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 4

12:16pm Mon 12 May 14

keith_l says...

Ysttonk wrote:
I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.
Ysttonk wrote:
"If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard."

This includes the stretch between Boreham and Hatfield Peverell junctions. So many people seem to stay in the middle lane in this section, apparently because they will have to take lane 2 at the Hatfield Peverell junction, so why move into lane 1?

This stretch is about four miles long and you only need to move over once you have passed the sign for the Hatfield Peverell junction.

For some strange reason there is less of a problem going the other way on the same stretch.


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[quote][p][bold]Ysttonk[/bold] wrote: I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.[/p][/quote]Ysttonk wrote: "If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard." This includes the stretch between Boreham and Hatfield Peverell junctions. So many people seem to stay in the middle lane in this section, apparently because they will have to take lane 2 at the Hatfield Peverell junction, so why move into lane 1? This stretch is about four miles long and you only need to move over once you have passed the sign for the Hatfield Peverell junction. For some strange reason there is less of a problem going the other way on the same stretch. ... keith_l
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7:41pm Mon 12 May 14

lilypad says...

Yes I agree that lane hogging can be exasperating but does it excuse the even more annoying, not to mention much more dangerous act of tailgating? I can imagine a vast majority of accidents are caused by this. A subtle flash of the headlights is normally enough to encourage a lane hogger to move over, rather than drive within a metre of the offending driver. Many a time I have cringed observing an impatient driver being a hairs width of the car in front.of them.
Yes I agree that lane hogging can be exasperating but does it excuse the even more annoying, not to mention much more dangerous act of tailgating? I can imagine a vast majority of accidents are caused by this. A subtle flash of the headlights is normally enough to encourage a lane hogger to move over, rather than drive within a metre of the offending driver. Many a time I have cringed observing an impatient driver being a hairs width of the car in front.of them. lilypad
  • Score: 7

8:26pm Mon 12 May 14

/@|_|@\ says...

One should note - they're not "accidents": they are crashes and preventable by more careful and judicious driving. But that would count me out as I -- like many others -- tend to become extremely frustrated at drivers that refuse to obey the lane drill inculcated into them before they were able to get a licence to hog the outer lanes. And then we are over-confident thinking that we can do what we want with impunity to get by the "incompetent idiot" blocking my trajectory!

I don't agree with the mixed message sent by grouping tailgating and speeding in the category of "inconsiderate" driving. It is dangerous. Driving slowly in the outer lanes is "inconsiderate". So, if a police man stops me for aggressive driving or speeding, he has done us all a favour and I will apologise. It slows me down and makes me more thoughtful (for a while). But equally, if you bozos that insist on staying in the middle -- or worse, the outside lane -- would move the hell over, I might not be jeopardised by having to slow down so rapidly when I realise you are gonna try to make a point and stay in the right lane despite my subtly flashed headlights.
One should note - they're not "accidents": they are crashes and preventable by more careful and judicious driving. But that would count me out as I -- like many others -- tend to become extremely frustrated at drivers that refuse to obey the lane drill inculcated into them before they were able to get a licence to hog the outer lanes. And then we are over-confident thinking that we can do what we want with impunity to get by the "incompetent idiot" blocking my trajectory! I don't agree with the mixed message sent by grouping tailgating and speeding in the category of "inconsiderate" driving. It is dangerous. Driving slowly in the outer lanes is "inconsiderate". So, if a police man stops me for aggressive driving or speeding, he has done us all a favour and I will apologise. It slows me down and makes me more thoughtful (for a while). But equally, if you bozos that insist on staying in the middle -- or worse, the outside lane -- would move the hell over, I might not be jeopardised by having to slow down so rapidly when I realise you are gonna try to make a point and stay in the right lane despite my subtly flashed headlights. /@|_|@\
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7:40am Tue 13 May 14

Ysttonk says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
Ysttonk wrote: I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.
And so should essex police do their job with confidence and support from the public. I wonder how many people being stopped and have action taken against them are previous offenders or dare one say it, of the 17,000 or so drivers who flouted the high street bus lane issue. Maybe Mr Brown at the Parking Partnership would like to do a double blind study, to see if there is a consistency in the figures. As for driving at 50 MPH on the A12 one of my cars is a 900 cc three cylinder vehicle it is perfectly acceptable to be driving at 50 to 55 on the inside lane. I suggest you sign up to a Roadcraft training course run bu former emergency service driver training officers before you attempt to tout your wares and proficiency in The System Of Car Control. Quiet Efficiency Is The Hallmark of The Expert.
I have passed two tests so I am more than road aware. People think driving slowly makes you a good safe driver. Being able and confident makes you a safe driver. I drive through villages at 20-30MPH on a motorway or dual carrageway I am confident at driving at speed limits. Driving miss daisy does not make you a safe driver nor does drivng like Lewis Hamilton.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ysttonk[/bold] wrote: I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.[/p][/quote]And so should essex police do their job with confidence and support from the public. I wonder how many people being stopped and have action taken against them are previous offenders or dare one say it, of the 17,000 or so drivers who flouted the high street bus lane issue. Maybe Mr Brown at the Parking Partnership would like to do a double blind study, to see if there is a consistency in the figures. As for driving at 50 MPH on the A12 one of my cars is a 900 cc three cylinder vehicle it is perfectly acceptable to be driving at 50 to 55 on the inside lane. I suggest you sign up to a Roadcraft training course run bu former emergency service driver training officers before you attempt to tout your wares and proficiency in The System Of Car Control. Quiet Efficiency Is The Hallmark of The Expert.[/p][/quote]I have passed two tests so I am more than road aware. People think driving slowly makes you a good safe driver. Being able and confident makes you a safe driver. I drive through villages at 20-30MPH on a motorway or dual carrageway I am confident at driving at speed limits. Driving miss daisy does not make you a safe driver nor does drivng like Lewis Hamilton. Ysttonk
  • Score: 2

11:54am Tue 13 May 14

Rose77 says...

keith_l wrote:
Ysttonk wrote:
I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.
Ysttonk wrote:
"If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard."

This includes the stretch between Boreham and Hatfield Peverell junctions. So many people seem to stay in the middle lane in this section, apparently because they will have to take lane 2 at the Hatfield Peverell junction, so why move into lane 1?

This stretch is about four miles long and you only need to move over once you have passed the sign for the Hatfield Peverell junction.

For some strange reason there is less of a problem going the other way on the same stretch.


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I absolutely agree Ysttonk, I simply cannot understand the reluctance of drivers to move over to the far left lane on this stretch. The sheep mentality on the A12 is incredulous. It is further compounded by the broad range of speeds at which cars travel on this road, from 50mph to 90+mph, if everyone did a consistent 70mph and kept up with the car in front (within a safe distance), congestion would ease without doubt in my mind. The changing of lanes, in accordance with traffic conditions, helps keep drivers alert and aware of the cars behind and around them. I bet if you were to ask the middle lane hogger the make and colour of the car behind them, they wouldn't be able to answer correctly. They simply aren't paying attention - if they were they would be using all three lanes appropriately!! I support this police iniative, but slow lane hoggers who are insistent on overtaking 'air', really need to be educated too.
[quote][p][bold]keith_l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ysttonk[/bold] wrote: I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.[/p][/quote]Ysttonk wrote: "If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard." This includes the stretch between Boreham and Hatfield Peverell junctions. So many people seem to stay in the middle lane in this section, apparently because they will have to take lane 2 at the Hatfield Peverell junction, so why move into lane 1? This stretch is about four miles long and you only need to move over once you have passed the sign for the Hatfield Peverell junction. For some strange reason there is less of a problem going the other way on the same stretch. ...[/p][/quote]I absolutely agree Ysttonk, I simply cannot understand the reluctance of drivers to move over to the far left lane on this stretch. The sheep mentality on the A12 is incredulous. It is further compounded by the broad range of speeds at which cars travel on this road, from 50mph to 90+mph, if everyone did a consistent 70mph and kept up with the car in front (within a safe distance), congestion would ease without doubt in my mind. The changing of lanes, in accordance with traffic conditions, helps keep drivers alert and aware of the cars behind and around them. I bet if you were to ask the middle lane hogger the make and colour of the car behind them, they wouldn't be able to answer correctly. They simply aren't paying attention - if they were they would be using all three lanes appropriately!! I support this police iniative, but slow lane hoggers who are insistent on overtaking 'air', really need to be educated too. Rose77
  • Score: 3

12:23pm Tue 13 May 14

Ysttonk says...

Rose77 wrote:
keith_l wrote:
Ysttonk wrote: I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.
Ysttonk wrote: "If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard." This includes the stretch between Boreham and Hatfield Peverell junctions. So many people seem to stay in the middle lane in this section, apparently because they will have to take lane 2 at the Hatfield Peverell junction, so why move into lane 1? This stretch is about four miles long and you only need to move over once you have passed the sign for the Hatfield Peverell junction. For some strange reason there is less of a problem going the other way on the same stretch. ...
I absolutely agree Ysttonk, I simply cannot understand the reluctance of drivers to move over to the far left lane on this stretch. The sheep mentality on the A12 is incredulous. It is further compounded by the broad range of speeds at which cars travel on this road, from 50mph to 90+mph, if everyone did a consistent 70mph and kept up with the car in front (within a safe distance), congestion would ease without doubt in my mind. The changing of lanes, in accordance with traffic conditions, helps keep drivers alert and aware of the cars behind and around them. I bet if you were to ask the middle lane hogger the make and colour of the car behind them, they wouldn't be able to answer correctly. They simply aren't paying attention - if they were they would be using all three lanes appropriately!! I support this police iniative, but slow lane hoggers who are insistent on overtaking 'air', really need to be educated too.
I agree, I thinks there is an attitude where people believe that because they pass a test they are good safe drivers.

I passed a motorbike test but nearly failed on not keeping up the 50mph speed limit as it encouraged drivers to make aggressive overtaking.

Sometimes people pull out then crawl along at 50 just so they can overtake one car, this makes everyone slow down causing tailbacks.
[quote][p][bold]Rose77[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]keith_l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ysttonk[/bold] wrote: I must say we have all be guilty of speeding at some point. But the police need to hit road hogs just as much. People crawling along the a12 at 50mph if you are not confident driving close to the speed limit don't drive. Also for idiots who think there is a slow medium and fast lane. It don't exist, never has done. If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard.[/p][/quote]Ysttonk wrote: "If you are not overtalking move over to the left hand lane. It's not hard." This includes the stretch between Boreham and Hatfield Peverell junctions. So many people seem to stay in the middle lane in this section, apparently because they will have to take lane 2 at the Hatfield Peverell junction, so why move into lane 1? This stretch is about four miles long and you only need to move over once you have passed the sign for the Hatfield Peverell junction. For some strange reason there is less of a problem going the other way on the same stretch. ...[/p][/quote]I absolutely agree Ysttonk, I simply cannot understand the reluctance of drivers to move over to the far left lane on this stretch. The sheep mentality on the A12 is incredulous. It is further compounded by the broad range of speeds at which cars travel on this road, from 50mph to 90+mph, if everyone did a consistent 70mph and kept up with the car in front (within a safe distance), congestion would ease without doubt in my mind. The changing of lanes, in accordance with traffic conditions, helps keep drivers alert and aware of the cars behind and around them. I bet if you were to ask the middle lane hogger the make and colour of the car behind them, they wouldn't be able to answer correctly. They simply aren't paying attention - if they were they would be using all three lanes appropriately!! I support this police iniative, but slow lane hoggers who are insistent on overtaking 'air', really need to be educated too.[/p][/quote]I agree, I thinks there is an attitude where people believe that because they pass a test they are good safe drivers. I passed a motorbike test but nearly failed on not keeping up the 50mph speed limit as it encouraged drivers to make aggressive overtaking. Sometimes people pull out then crawl along at 50 just so they can overtake one car, this makes everyone slow down causing tailbacks. Ysttonk
  • Score: 3

4:28pm Tue 13 May 14

The Stinker Returns says...

It's all about paying proper attention and anticipating and taking account of other road users and what they might do at any given moment. If you see cars coming down a slip road onto the A12, move out into another lane and let them on (if it's safe to do so). If a lorry is closing in on another moving more slowly, then anticipate that at any given moment they will pull out in front of you without indicating. Keep your distance from other cars, keep as calm as you can (difficult with some of the appalling driving you see) and, dare I say it, ensure that older people are still fit to drive confidently on busy roads. I would not let my mother drive on the A12 for the sake of other drivers.
It's all about paying proper attention and anticipating and taking account of other road users and what they might do at any given moment. If you see cars coming down a slip road onto the A12, move out into another lane and let them on (if it's safe to do so). If a lorry is closing in on another moving more slowly, then anticipate that at any given moment they will pull out in front of you without indicating. Keep your distance from other cars, keep as calm as you can (difficult with some of the appalling driving you see) and, dare I say it, ensure that older people are still fit to drive confidently on busy roads. I would not let my mother drive on the A12 for the sake of other drivers. The Stinker Returns
  • Score: 5

5:28pm Tue 13 May 14

wormshero says...

/@|_|@\ wrote:
One should note - they're not "accidents": they are crashes and preventable by more careful and judicious driving. But that would count me out as I -- like many others -- tend to become extremely frustrated at drivers that refuse to obey the lane drill inculcated into them before they were able to get a licence to hog the outer lanes. And then we are over-confident thinking that we can do what we want with impunity to get by the "incompetent idiot" blocking my trajectory!

I don't agree with the mixed message sent by grouping tailgating and speeding in the category of "inconsiderate" driving. It is dangerous. Driving slowly in the outer lanes is "inconsiderate". So, if a police man stops me for aggressive driving or speeding, he has done us all a favour and I will apologise. It slows me down and makes me more thoughtful (for a while). But equally, if you bozos that insist on staying in the middle -- or worse, the outside lane -- would move the hell over, I might not be jeopardised by having to slow down so rapidly when I realise you are gonna try to make a point and stay in the right lane despite my subtly flashed headlights.
Hate to be pedantic but, unless the driver deliberately crashes, it's still an accident, being an unintentional collision, whether they're driving responsibly or not.
[quote][p][bold]/@|_|@\[/bold] wrote: One should note - they're not "accidents": they are crashes and preventable by more careful and judicious driving. But that would count me out as I -- like many others -- tend to become extremely frustrated at drivers that refuse to obey the lane drill inculcated into them before they were able to get a licence to hog the outer lanes. And then we are over-confident thinking that we can do what we want with impunity to get by the "incompetent idiot" blocking my trajectory! I don't agree with the mixed message sent by grouping tailgating and speeding in the category of "inconsiderate" driving. It is dangerous. Driving slowly in the outer lanes is "inconsiderate". So, if a police man stops me for aggressive driving or speeding, he has done us all a favour and I will apologise. It slows me down and makes me more thoughtful (for a while). But equally, if you bozos that insist on staying in the middle -- or worse, the outside lane -- would move the hell over, I might not be jeopardised by having to slow down so rapidly when I realise you are gonna try to make a point and stay in the right lane despite my subtly flashed headlights.[/p][/quote]Hate to be pedantic but, unless the driver deliberately crashes, it's still an accident, being an unintentional collision, whether they're driving responsibly or not. wormshero
  • Score: 0

5:58pm Tue 13 May 14

/@|_|@\ says...

My accepted definition of "accident" is an occurrence of something without apparent or deliberate cause. That would certainly fit your usage, wormshero. But, I must ask if not that "crash" is the more definitive description, surely? It describes a collision between one vehicle and another or other obstacle, no?

Anyway - some good points made above. I tend to take advantage of the four hundred horsepower from five and a half litres beneath the bonnet of my car but try to do so in a way that anticipates the whimsy and foibles of those others on the road with me. I think sometimes though, I have an unrealistic expectation of other people's attitudes and capabilities and agree with Stinker's observation of the appalling driving often seen. Heaven help me - where I live it's exponentially worse: the only saving grace is the roads are considerably wider in nearly all circumstances. So, the police enforcement of speed and etiquette is not a bad thing - even if a bit frustrating (for me) sometimes! :-D
My accepted definition of "accident" is an occurrence of something without apparent or deliberate cause. That would certainly fit your usage, wormshero. But, I must ask if not that "crash" is the more definitive description, surely? It describes a collision between one vehicle and another or other obstacle, no? Anyway - some good points made above. I tend to take advantage of the four hundred horsepower from five and a half litres beneath the bonnet of my car but try to do so in a way that anticipates the whimsy and foibles of those others on the road with me. I think sometimes though, I have an unrealistic expectation of other people's attitudes and capabilities and agree with Stinker's observation of the appalling driving often seen. Heaven help me - where I live it's exponentially worse: the only saving grace is the roads are considerably wider in nearly all circumstances. So, the police enforcement of speed and etiquette is not a bad thing - even if a bit frustrating (for me) sometimes! :-D /@|_|@\
  • Score: -8

7:04pm Tue 13 May 14

peachey says...

Why do tailgaters always blame lane hoggers for their appalling driving? Yes lane hoggers are a nuisance, yes they cause congestion and should be fined if caught but how can you justify driving up someone's a r s e because they wont move out of your way when their speed does not suit you? Time and time again whilst driving on the A12 I calmly pull out to overtake the car doing 60 only to look in my mirror to see a car nearly touching my number plate. It is so intimidating! You wouldn't do it whilst on foot but as you can remain anonymous in your four hundred horsepower and 5 and a half litre engine penis extension, tailgating is totally acceptable to you. Tailgaters see the road as a playground and as with all playgrounds you get bullys that have a beef with the world -a very bad mental state to be in - its just an extension of their personal problems, surely going to a therapist is less dangerous to the innocents whose lives you choose to endanger?
Why do tailgaters always blame lane hoggers for their appalling driving? Yes lane hoggers are a nuisance, yes they cause congestion and should be fined if caught but how can you justify driving up someone's a r s e because they wont move out of your way when their speed does not suit you? Time and time again whilst driving on the A12 I calmly pull out to overtake the car doing 60 only to look in my mirror to see a car nearly touching my number plate. It is so intimidating! You wouldn't do it whilst on foot but as you can remain anonymous in your four hundred horsepower and 5 and a half litre engine penis extension, tailgating is totally acceptable to you. Tailgaters see the road as a playground and as with all playgrounds you get bullys that have a beef with the world -a very bad mental state to be in - its just an extension of their personal problems, surely going to a therapist is less dangerous to the innocents whose lives you choose to endanger? peachey
  • Score: 10

9:40pm Tue 13 May 14

/@|_|@\ says...

Well, aren't you the self-righteous proselytizer, peachy, old dear?! I never said ANYTHING about sanctioning tailgating people nor do i do it, intimidating people by drafting on their tail pipe (although I'd readily make you an exception since you are so susceptible). So, get off your high horse will you? I do admit to driving fast and for "excessive displays of power" as they say but that, to the best of my knowledge, rarely if ever has hurt someone on an empty road! And I do admit to the fact that I can be aggressive in my speed. And I equally admit to the efficacy of the police enforcing what should be common courtesy and a habit of sharing the road. However, self-righteous berks that seems to think the local gendarme died and made them the law enforcement agency of choice do get right up my nose. You would seem ot fit that mold. Just my opinion of course ... However, since you seem to think you know so much of my psyche (as well as my physical attributes: amazing the power of the interwebs, innit?!) I imagine you already knew that too. What a clever ol' dear you are, then.
Well, aren't you the self-righteous proselytizer, peachy, old dear?! I never said ANYTHING about sanctioning tailgating people nor do i do it, intimidating people by drafting on their tail pipe (although I'd readily make you an exception since you are so susceptible). So, get off your high horse will you? I do admit to driving fast and for "excessive displays of power" as they say but that, to the best of my knowledge, rarely if ever has hurt someone on an empty road! And I do admit to the fact that I can be aggressive in my speed. And I equally admit to the efficacy of the police enforcing what should be common courtesy and a habit of sharing the road. However, self-righteous berks that seems to think the local gendarme died and made them the law enforcement agency of choice do get right up my nose. You would seem ot fit that mold. Just my opinion of course ... However, since you seem to think you know so much of my psyche (as well as my physical attributes: amazing the power of the interwebs, innit?!) I imagine you already knew that too. What a clever ol' dear you are, then. /@|_|@\
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10:32pm Thu 15 May 14

pierre-pierre says...

and whats wrong with driving on the A12 at 50 MPH?
Speed limits
Goods vehicles (more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight)
Built-up areas mph Single carriageways mph Dual carriageways mph
30 40 50
and whats wrong with driving on the A12 at 50 MPH? Speed limits Goods vehicles (more than 7.5 tonnes maximum laden weight) Built-up areas mph Single carriageways mph Dual carriageways mph 30 40 50 pierre-pierre
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4:46pm Fri 16 May 14

/@|_|@\ says...

I think there's nothing wrong with driving at 50 MPH when there's heavy traffic but when there's little (I know! Whenever that might occur) then why enforce an unnecessarily low speed limit when it's perfectly safe to allow those who want (and can) travel at 70 - 80?
I think there's nothing wrong with driving at 50 MPH when there's heavy traffic but when there's little (I know! Whenever that might occur) then why enforce an unnecessarily low speed limit when it's perfectly safe to allow those who want (and can) travel at 70 - 80? /@|_|@\
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