Calls for a multi-storey to solve Colchester General Hospital parking problems

Calls for a multi-storey to solve Colchester General Hospital parking problems

Calls for a multi-storey to solve Colchester General Hospital parking problems

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An elderly husband has slammed Colchester General Hospital’s “terrible” car park after being hit with a fine because there were no disabled bays available.

Gordon Carpenter, 81, claims he was forced to park on double yellow lines when he took his wife, June, who is currently in a wheelchair, for her hip treatment at the Elmstead ward.

He even went back to the car park during the two and half hour treatment last Wednesday to see if anyone disabled bays had become available, but by the end of the appointment had been given a parking ticket.

Another three cars, with blue badges, that were also parked on the double yellow lines had been ticketed and Mr Carpenter estimates 50 drivers across the hospital site had been fined on that day.

He claims that he has only been able to park in a disabled bay once out of his last four visits to the Turner Road, Hospital.

He said: “It is terrible, to me they should be supplying [enough] spaces, they want to concrete over all the grass verges to save on the expense of cutting and turn them into car park areas, if they can’t build a multi-storey.

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1:20pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

He could have used the car park and pay like everyone else has to. Having a blue badge does not mean the owner hasn't the means to pay for parking! They always want something for nothing. What he did was nothing short of selfish without a care for others.
He could have used the car park and pay like everyone else has to. Having a blue badge does not mean the owner hasn't the means to pay for parking! They always want something for nothing. What he did was nothing short of selfish without a care for others. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 12

2:01pm Wed 29 Jan 14

common sense or not says...

I have just found this on the direct .gov.uk site which provides info on blue badges:
You are not entitled to park on yellow lines in off-street car parks
and (also please beware of the following) Parking places reserved for specific users such as resident’s bays or loading bays.
(However you may wish to check whether a particular local authority has chosen to exempt Blue Badge holders from these restrictions).
This could be a major problem if the new zones around Lexden Road are adopted and Blue Badge Users might want to reply to the consultation.
The biggest problem anywhere is the vast number of Blue Badges and not enough space anywhere , even supermarkets, for them all but what is the solution?
I have just found this on the direct .gov.uk site which provides info on blue badges: You are not entitled to park on yellow lines in off-street car parks and (also please beware of the following) Parking places reserved for specific users such as resident’s bays or loading bays. (However you may wish to check whether a particular local authority has chosen to exempt Blue Badge holders from these restrictions). This could be a major problem if the new zones around Lexden Road are adopted and Blue Badge Users might want to reply to the consultation. The biggest problem anywhere is the vast number of Blue Badges and not enough space anywhere , even supermarkets, for them all but what is the solution? common sense or not
  • Score: -1

3:15pm Wed 29 Jan 14

peachey says...

This is not related to disabled parking but I was up there a couple of months ago picking up a relative from a ward and it took me 30 minutes to actually get in to the hospital grounds as there was a queue as far as the mini roundabout at the junction with Fieldview Close because there were so many cars waiting to get in the car park. There was a car park attendant manually opening the barriers and once in I had to drive around for another 10 minutes trying to find a space, I basically had to wait for someone to leave. There simply aren't enough spaces and something needs to be done, now! There is a big grassy area at the front that could be used for more spaces.
This is not related to disabled parking but I was up there a couple of months ago picking up a relative from a ward and it took me 30 minutes to actually get in to the hospital grounds as there was a queue as far as the mini roundabout at the junction with Fieldview Close because there were so many cars waiting to get in the car park. There was a car park attendant manually opening the barriers and once in I had to drive around for another 10 minutes trying to find a space, I basically had to wait for someone to leave. There simply aren't enough spaces and something needs to be done, now! There is a big grassy area at the front that could be used for more spaces. peachey
  • Score: 9

4:27pm Wed 29 Jan 14

romantic says...

I appreciate that not everybody can avoid driving there, but there is a perfectly good bus service which could be used by many people. If you are routinely finding problems getting a space, or having to queue 30 minutes to get in, it might be worth looking into. If you are in a traffic jam, or part of that queue, you are yourself a part of the problem!
I appreciate that not everybody can avoid driving there, but there is a perfectly good bus service which could be used by many people. If you are routinely finding problems getting a space, or having to queue 30 minutes to get in, it might be worth looking into. If you are in a traffic jam, or part of that queue, you are yourself a part of the problem! romantic
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Highwoods Resident says...

I sincerely hope that once the new Park and Ride facility at Cuckoo Farm comes into use the buses will be routed via the hospital which would drastically cut the parking problem for able bodied people and free up spaces for disabled users. Patients and visitors use the P&R to access Addenbrookes Hospital in Cambridge so why not here in Colchester?
I sincerely hope that once the new Park and Ride facility at Cuckoo Farm comes into use the buses will be routed via the hospital which would drastically cut the parking problem for able bodied people and free up spaces for disabled users. Patients and visitors use the P&R to access Addenbrookes Hospital in Cambridge so why not here in Colchester? Highwoods Resident
  • Score: 8

5:37pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Taj says...

romantic wrote:
I appreciate that not everybody can avoid driving there, but there is a perfectly good bus service which could be used by many people. If you are routinely finding problems getting a space, or having to queue 30 minutes to get in, it might be worth looking into. If you are in a traffic jam, or part of that queue, you are yourself a part of the problem!
If you have mobility problems public transport is not an option and it definitely isn't a perfectly good service if like me you live on the other side of the town and have to change buses.
I tried to get into the car park for an appointment a week ago and after a long wait and being unable to find anywhere to park I had to cancel my appointment.
I am about to start daily therapy for the next 6 weeks and am dreading trying to get there.
There is not enough parking full stop,I am not a blue badge holder but I cannot imagine how a disabled person will get in and out of their vehicle in the small spaces between cars in the main car park even if they can get in.
[quote][p][bold]romantic[/bold] wrote: I appreciate that not everybody can avoid driving there, but there is a perfectly good bus service which could be used by many people. If you are routinely finding problems getting a space, or having to queue 30 minutes to get in, it might be worth looking into. If you are in a traffic jam, or part of that queue, you are yourself a part of the problem![/p][/quote]If you have mobility problems public transport is not an option and it definitely isn't a perfectly good service if like me you live on the other side of the town and have to change buses. I tried to get into the car park for an appointment a week ago and after a long wait and being unable to find anywhere to park I had to cancel my appointment. I am about to start daily therapy for the next 6 weeks and am dreading trying to get there. There is not enough parking full stop,I am not a blue badge holder but I cannot imagine how a disabled person will get in and out of their vehicle in the small spaces between cars in the main car park even if they can get in. Taj
  • Score: 6

5:57pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Salam27 says...

I often have to take a disabled badge holder to the general hospital ( public transport is not an option due to her disability and travel distance from Halstead)I always have to wait for a space , I have seen non badge holders and staff park in the disabled spaces , without a thought blue badge holders. Many people park on double yellow lines in desperation and get tickets . There are not enough disabled or general parking spaces . I agree that there are grass areas which could be turned into usefull parking areas, as people would rather be able to park easily than admire the landscape!
I often have to take a disabled badge holder to the general hospital ( public transport is not an option due to her disability and travel distance from Halstead)I always have to wait for a space , I have seen non badge holders and staff park in the disabled spaces , without a thought blue badge holders. Many people park on double yellow lines in desperation and get tickets . There are not enough disabled or general parking spaces . I agree that there are grass areas which could be turned into usefull parking areas, as people would rather be able to park easily than admire the landscape! Salam27
  • Score: 4

6:19pm Wed 29 Jan 14

greenbroker says...

Colchester General Hospital has been a planning disaster from day one. It's in the wrong place on Turner Road. Maybe an additional entrance off Northern Approach would help? Does anybody care about sensible planning anymore? In addition we have all those new homes to come in Mile End and developments around the A12 junction. I certainly wouldn't consider buying a property in that area.
Colchester General Hospital has been a planning disaster from day one. It's in the wrong place on Turner Road. Maybe an additional entrance off Northern Approach would help? Does anybody care about sensible planning anymore? In addition we have all those new homes to come in Mile End and developments around the A12 junction. I certainly wouldn't consider buying a property in that area. greenbroker
  • Score: 10

8:58pm Wed 29 Jan 14

crazy comments says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
He could have used the car park and pay like everyone else has to. Having a blue badge does not mean the owner hasn't the means to pay for parking! They always want something for nothing. What he did was nothing short of selfish without a care for others.
You try to get parked in the normal hospital car park especially during visiting hours in the afternoon. Bloody terrible. It also states his wife is in a wheelchair. You fu-king lot wait till your old. That's the trouble with this country now nobody shows any respect or cares a sh-t. People like him fought in the war and should be shown a little tolerance.
You ask me why land just further down the road that belonged to the health service was sold for building. A car park could have been built on this then a shuttle service run to the hospital from it.
Yes a multi story car park like the one at Basildon hospital would be great. Its free for the first hour then £3 for the day, a lot cheaper than Colchester General.
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: He could have used the car park and pay like everyone else has to. Having a blue badge does not mean the owner hasn't the means to pay for parking! They always want something for nothing. What he did was nothing short of selfish without a care for others.[/p][/quote]You try to get parked in the normal hospital car park especially during visiting hours in the afternoon. Bloody terrible. It also states his wife is in a wheelchair. You fu-king lot wait till your old. That's the trouble with this country now nobody shows any respect or cares a sh-t. People like him fought in the war and should be shown a little tolerance. You ask me why land just further down the road that belonged to the health service was sold for building. A car park could have been built on this then a shuttle service run to the hospital from it. Yes a multi story car park like the one at Basildon hospital would be great. Its free for the first hour then £3 for the day, a lot cheaper than Colchester General. crazy comments
  • Score: 6

9:44pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

The war finished in 1945, that's 69 years ago! The guy is 81, do the maths!
The war finished in 1945, that's 69 years ago! The guy is 81, do the maths! Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 2

10:12pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Hamiltonandy says...

It is indeed chaos with cars sometimes waiting to enter the car park in queues back to the main road. The traffic now operates on an informal one way system so you can pass the stopped cars to drop off your passenger. and thankfully leave the hospital grounds.
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Unfortunately Colchester Council refused planning permission to extend the car park space years ago. Would they approve a multistory car park and would it be financially viable?
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Fortunately we have a excellent bus service no 65 but not all areas are so well served. I remember the CCVS running a minibus service on two routes.
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The Colchester hospital is so huge with endless corridors and needs more and more space for new equipment. One long-term solution might be to put some of the hospital services on another site near Colchester or centralise them in another hospital. For example Basildon heart unit is separate from the main hospital and was much preferred by a relative to Colchester. He suffered endless delays and confusion at Colchester but very quick efficient high tech work at Basildon. Basildon can do some heart operations that Colchester cannot.
It is indeed chaos with cars sometimes waiting to enter the car park in queues back to the main road. The traffic now operates on an informal one way system so you can pass the stopped cars to drop off your passenger. and thankfully leave the hospital grounds. . Unfortunately Colchester Council refused planning permission to extend the car park space years ago. Would they approve a multistory car park and would it be financially viable? . Fortunately we have a excellent bus service no 65 but not all areas are so well served. I remember the CCVS running a minibus service on two routes. . The Colchester hospital is so huge with endless corridors and needs more and more space for new equipment. One long-term solution might be to put some of the hospital services on another site near Colchester or centralise them in another hospital. For example Basildon heart unit is separate from the main hospital and was much preferred by a relative to Colchester. He suffered endless delays and confusion at Colchester but very quick efficient high tech work at Basildon. Basildon can do some heart operations that Colchester cannot. Hamiltonandy
  • Score: 3

10:27pm Wed 29 Jan 14

crazy comments says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
The war finished in 1945, that's 69 years ago! The guy is 81, do the maths!
May be one day you might have a heart attack , but when you arrive at the hospital there is no where to park. Be tough luck I reckon if you lost your life. Just have a little compassion for the older generation does help.
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: The war finished in 1945, that's 69 years ago! The guy is 81, do the maths![/p][/quote]May be one day you might have a heart attack , but when you arrive at the hospital there is no where to park. Be tough luck I reckon if you lost your life. Just have a little compassion for the older generation does help. crazy comments
  • Score: 1

2:29am Thu 30 Jan 14

Boris says...

As others have said, the location of Colchester General Hospital is a disaster.
When you are in a hole, it is best to stop digging, yet management at CGH have done the opposite. They want to centralise everything on that usuitable site, and shut down the excellent Essex County Hospital, which is still the place for various medical departments. Any day now they will be transferring cancer treatment, which means yet more pressure on car parking at CGH. They should be transferring services back to ECH.
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Yes, it's true that able-bodied visitors to CGH, of whom there are plenty, ought to take the bus. But ask them all - including the councillor who was moaning recently about missing her physiotherapy appointment because she had failed to allow enough time for finding a parking place - and they will all explain just why they had to come by car.
A cheap and cheerful solution to the problem would be to ban staff (at whatever level) from parking at the hospital. This would free up the staff car park for visitors. Staff should use the WHCS car park, and there should be shuttle buses to take them to and from work. On the 25 days a year that Col U are playing at home, then of course staff would park at the hospital and visitors would be back to the present situation, but this would avoid the expense and disruption of building a multi-storey car park.
As others have said, the location of Colchester General Hospital is a disaster. When you are in a hole, it is best to stop digging, yet management at CGH have done the opposite. They want to centralise everything on that usuitable site, and shut down the excellent Essex County Hospital, which is still the place for various medical departments. Any day now they will be transferring cancer treatment, which means yet more pressure on car parking at CGH. They should be transferring services back to ECH. . Yes, it's true that able-bodied visitors to CGH, of whom there are plenty, ought to take the bus. But ask them all - including the councillor who was moaning recently about missing her physiotherapy appointment because she had failed to allow enough time for finding a parking place - and they will all explain just why they had to come by car. A cheap and cheerful solution to the problem would be to ban staff (at whatever level) from parking at the hospital. This would free up the staff car park for visitors. Staff should use the WHCS car park, and there should be shuttle buses to take them to and from work. On the 25 days a year that Col U are playing at home, then of course staff would park at the hospital and visitors would be back to the present situation, but this would avoid the expense and disruption of building a multi-storey car park. Boris
  • Score: 1

8:54am Thu 30 Jan 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Don't think Cuckoo Farm Stadium idea will work, they already run a daily shuttle service to Severalls Business Park and both the car park and bus parking areas are in regular daily use, particularly when major conferences are held. When the Park and Ride is opened that would be ideal, providing adequate routing through/close to the hospital is considered.

Twenty years ago I recall the Severalls site (already NHS land) was proposed by many people for a new CGH site but at that time land values and pigheadedness from those who obviously knew better? meant the NHS ignored sensible proposals but decided, along with support from CBC, to put housing there........and we all know what happened!
Don't think Cuckoo Farm Stadium idea will work, they already run a daily shuttle service to Severalls Business Park and both the car park and bus parking areas are in regular daily use, particularly when major conferences are held. When the Park and Ride is opened that would be ideal, providing adequate routing through/close to the hospital is considered. Twenty years ago I recall the Severalls site (already NHS land) was proposed by many people for a new CGH site but at that time land values and pigheadedness from those who obviously knew better? meant the NHS ignored sensible proposals but decided, along with support from CBC, to put housing there........and we all know what happened! Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 0

9:04am Thu 30 Jan 14

Hamiltonandy says...

As "Boris" says the Essex County Hospital could be an excellent site for some of the NHS services. Very convenient for buses and easy access to drop off passengers from your car. The main building is well proportioned and it would be great if the multitude of portacabin type buildings around it were replaced in similar style to the main building. Of course the fabled park & ride is promised this year to solve all the traffic problems!
As "Boris" says the Essex County Hospital could be an excellent site for some of the NHS services. Very convenient for buses and easy access to drop off passengers from your car. The main building is well proportioned and it would be great if the multitude of portacabin type buildings around it were replaced in similar style to the main building. Of course the fabled park & ride is promised this year to solve all the traffic problems! Hamiltonandy
  • Score: 4

9:57am Thu 30 Jan 14

hughie-s says...

"Staff should use the WHCS car park, and there should be shuttle buses to take them to and from work."

AFAIR that was tried shortly after the stadium opened but didn't last long.
"Staff should use the WHCS car park, and there should be shuttle buses to take them to and from work." AFAIR that was tried shortly after the stadium opened but didn't last long. hughie-s
  • Score: 1

10:02am Thu 30 Jan 14

hughie-s says...

hughie-s wrote:
"Staff should use the WHCS car park, and there should be shuttle buses to take them to and from work."

AFAIR that was tried shortly after the stadium opened but didn't last long.
Just found the date, started May 2009 Photo and article on Colchester park and rides http://busmopolitan.
org/page171.html
[quote][p][bold]hughie-s[/bold] wrote: "Staff should use the WHCS car park, and there should be shuttle buses to take them to and from work." AFAIR that was tried shortly after the stadium opened but didn't last long.[/p][/quote]Just found the date, started May 2009 Photo and article on Colchester park and rides http://busmopolitan. org/page171.html hughie-s
  • Score: 1

10:15am Thu 30 Jan 14

stevedawson says...

Build a multi storey car park on one site and then another on the other parking
site.that hospital will continue to grow and people will continue to drive cars.
Build a multi storey car park on one site and then another on the other parking site.that hospital will continue to grow and people will continue to drive cars. stevedawson
  • Score: 2

9:35am Sat 1 Feb 14

LeQueen says...

New site and a new hospital is needed. The recent problems at Colchester won't go away on that site. They need a dedicated women and childrens hospital. A huge geriatric department is needed with dedicated dementia care in addition to the current departments. The stroke unit needs to be closed down and relocated at Addenbrookes.

It all boils down to funding though.
New site and a new hospital is needed. The recent problems at Colchester won't go away on that site. They need a dedicated women and childrens hospital. A huge geriatric department is needed with dedicated dementia care in addition to the current departments. The stroke unit needs to be closed down and relocated at Addenbrookes. It all boils down to funding though. LeQueen
  • Score: 0

6:33pm Tue 4 Feb 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

Let us digest the facts here?
the hospital will not let us park for free like the welsh NHS
people will come to the hospital to visit or receive treatment, the trust will not relinquish the charges it is its largest earner or revenue.
a multi level car park is the only way forward, there are not enough spaces for everyone attending this hospital.
the system has not the money or the facilities to bring people in under ambulance service transport.
it is really insulting though to the public, you pay to go to the trust under your own steam, then they make you pay to park the means of transport that you provided to save them taking you to their facility.
visitors going to see patients actually do hospitals a favour in respite and expenditure during their calls to the hospitals.
the multi storey is badly needed, there is no choice or alternate, they will charge you loads of money, let us hope its on a pile thm high and sell them cheap basis ie £2 a day say they have 5000 spaces that's 10k a day work it out Vordemans?
3.5 million a year should pay for itself in no time then there is the gravy?
Let us digest the facts here? the hospital will not let us park for free like the welsh NHS people will come to the hospital to visit or receive treatment, the trust will not relinquish the charges it is its largest earner or revenue. a multi level car park is the only way forward, there are not enough spaces for everyone attending this hospital. the system has not the money or the facilities to bring people in under ambulance service transport. it is really insulting though to the public, you pay to go to the trust under your own steam, then they make you pay to park the means of transport that you provided to save them taking you to their facility. visitors going to see patients actually do hospitals a favour in respite and expenditure during their calls to the hospitals. the multi storey is badly needed, there is no choice or alternate, they will charge you loads of money, let us hope its on a pile thm high and sell them cheap basis ie £2 a day say they have 5000 spaces that's 10k a day work it out Vordemans? 3.5 million a year should pay for itself in no time then there is the gravy? A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 1

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